[IG_Semmelweiss]

I don't think you get it. The community is no more. Its all transient SV, just like NYC.

Most pay taxes, sometimes very high taxes. And, San Franciscans have voted to have someone else fix the issue.

The citizens gave the monopoly of violence to the government, so citizens would be safe. The government has stopped protecting its citizens and their property. The social contract is broken.

Now they are where they are.

[CWuestefeld]

I think you misunderstand me - I think you and I are in agreement.

But although the SFans made a deal with the devil, there's no reason they can't go back and change that. It's not written in blood, they still can go take back their community themselves.

[IG_Semmelweiss]

There is no community to turn this around anymore. What could have been the community is gone. Those people are not voting anymore.

They leave. Gone. Poof.

For something to turn around, you have to make an investment (money/time). People with money and means are going to invest elsewhere especially since they don't really have a true community to defend. They started as transients, remember that. No generations of family. No roots.