[shagmin]

Not saying this is wrong, but it's kind of misleading the same way electoral college maps are misleading. People moving to the south working in tech aren't moving to the vast areas that are plagued with issues. They're moving to metros like Austin, Atlanta, Charlotte, Raleigh, etc., which are on par with life expectancy in California in that map.

[RockyMcNuts]

fair enough ... or Miami ... you're still talking about states where there's lively debate about banning books, banning abortion, putting the 10 commandments and creationism in every classroom (and guns), making it effectively legal to shoot certain people or run them down with your car ... places with not-great schools and health care and culture, with cops and 'community orgs' dedicated to keeping certain people in their place. if you're a tech company and want to attract the best and brightest without regard for color or creed, women, lgbtq, people who think and look different, it's an issue, even if it's in a comparative island of receptivity.

[prottog]

> making it effectively legal to shoot certain people or run them down with your car

> cops and 'community orgs' dedicated to keeping certain people in their place

Come now, that's as exaggerated as saying coastal states have no law enforcement anymore and have taxpayer-funded abortion factories. If there is such a thing as drinking Fox News koolaid, what you're saying is the MSNBC equivalent.

Do you spend a lot of time in the South? I live in a Deep South state as an immigrant and visible ethnic minority. People of different races get along very well here. I used to live in a major coastal metropolis that had BLM signs on every other lawn but effectively zero black people actually living in those neighborhoods. Here? Effectively zero BLM signs, but black and white and other races rubbing shoulders as neighbors every day.

For the past few decades, if you asked black professional athletes what city they were most likely to face overt racism in, it was Boston, not a Southern city.

[RockyMcNuts]

I hear you, I don't live in South but I know people who do, and I see a lot of the mentality of, shoot first, ask questions later, and it goes exponential where someone who looks different is involved

https://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/san-antonio-...

https://nypost.com/2022/02/01/dashcam-shows-florida-man-open...

[prottog]

I don't disagree that people should keep cooler heads all around. Perhaps it's the miserable humid heat that drives all that behavior (and it's been observed all around the world that hot weather is correlated with more murders).

Your two anecdotes, by the way, show no evidence that the people involved were of different races.

[RockyMcNuts]

point taken, there's definitely racism, anti-Asian violence, militias and Proud Boys and idiots in the North. The totality of circumstances and history and socioeconomics and state-sponsored nonsense and fundamentalist nonsense and gun culture just hits a little different in the South.