[throwayyy479087]

This thread is 90%+ people denying the very existence of a problem.

Last time I was in SF, people were shocked that I felt less comfortable than I do in Detroit. Detroit doesn't tolerate half the shit SF does - no encampments, no wandering screamers, etc. Yes, violent and organized crime is much higher - but when you're QOL is lower than the symbol of urban decline........

[alphabettsy]

> Detroit doesn't tolerate half the shit SF does - no encampments, no wandering screamers, etc.

Huh?

The homeless squat in abandoned houses and when it’s warm they absolutely do have tents.

Wandering screamers? Really, they don’t because that wasn’t my experience either.

Maybe Detroit is just much smaller, has different weather and has fewer homeless?

[throwayyy479087]

Detroit is almost exactly the same size as SF. Detroit has cheap housing AND STILL BUILDS MORE. SF has decided that NIMBYism is the solution to homelessness, and it's obviously not working.

[alphabettsy]

Size as in geographic area or population? Detroit has blocks and blocks where only a single house exists, thousands of empty lots and abandoned homes. Easier to build when there’s cheap empty lots.

[distrill]

what? there is nothing in this thread that isn't blaming sf and its politics for allowing this to happen.

[Vervious]

Big +1 to you.