[virgildotcodes]

So then you are aware that what passes for “left wing” in US politics is considered moderate in the rest of the developed world, i.e. Western Europe, Scandinavia, Canada.

Yet virtually all these countries have far better outcomes than us on most social issues, including violent crime and rehabilitation.

So perhaps the issue isn’t left wing policies?

[peyton]

There’s human shit on the streets. A man was stabbed to death. Let’s stay on topic.

[fallingknife]

Which of these things are considered moderate in any of the rest of the developed world?

- allowing arrested thieves to walk free without charges

- removing advanced math classes from high schools in the name of equality

- legalized racial discrimination in school admissions and hiring

- allowing transgender men to compete against women in sports

[likecarter]

The rest of the world doesn’t have elected DA’s.

[lizardking]

You are conflating economic leftism (which is not what is being discussed) with social leftism.

[viridian]

On the specific issue of policing, the left wing of American politics, takes an extremely strong stance on the minimalization of the role of police. Yes, this is in spite of generally being more economically right than most European countries left wing parties.

I hope against hope that you aren't acting in bad faith, because I'd hate to see discussion on HN further degrade into oversimplified sound bites.