[rainy59]

In fairness, downtown SF SJ and Oakland were always a tad dicey even back in dot com days so most startups preferred to be in more expensive PA MV

Even East PA was the hood. Oakland was famous for riots

SF governance has always been terrible. Real estate has gotten so expensive that startups anxious to conserve runway are pushing deeper into bad neighborhoods that were once unthinkable

[thaumasiotes]

> Real estate has gotten so expensive that startups anxious to conserve runway are pushing deeper into bad neighborhoods that were once unthinkable

If the cost of office space were a concern, it'd be difficult to explain why they're anywhere near the Bay Area at all.

[rainy59]

Yes Eastern Europe is much cheaper

The nice thing about Bay Area is that everyone is on the "same page" (call it an echo chamber maybe)

You can go into any meeting and mention some technical thing like LangChain and everyone knows what u are talking about. No need to waste 15 minutes getting ppl up 2 speed. Outside the Bay Area, Europe etc. you'd mostly get blank stares, even in an accelerator or hub

[smabie]

More talent ?

[inferiorhuman]

East Palo Alto is a separate city, in a different county, from Palo Alto.

[astrange]

Cities in California are artificial concepts that mainly exist because the people there decided they didn't want to share property taxes with the poorer people next door. EPA is the worst example, but also see Piedmont which is literally inside Oakland, and then see every single SoCal city that outsiders think are parts of Los Angeles.

[rainy59]

It's literally across the 101

The Facebook / Sun campus is there because it was cheap land

[hechtoid]

technically just over the border to the north in menlo.