[40yearoldman]

Working and hiring from google in the past 5 maybe 10 years is just silly. You go to google, learn google, and are useless in the real world.

I don't care how hard your interviews are, you still will come to every interview and fail because "at google I used Borg, and have no clue how to actually do anything", "at google I used spanner, and know not how to do anything".

Google will stunt your career, and startups and small shops are simply going to avoid ex-goolers. It's no longer a badge of honer.

[mistymountains]

I have no interest in big tech but I think this is false, it’s still an asset. Now, is it what it used to be? No. But you can get hired pretty easily. And if you think Google stunts you you’re going to love legacy companies. Now Meta, that’s another story…

[40yearoldman]

Yes, people still hire goggles, thinking they are getting some sort of awesome person. And yes, sometimes they do, but not because they were a google, because that person was already awesome before google.

The market is changing, and startups and small shops are paying attention. Just because you have google on your resume does not mean you know anything at all any more.

This is not google specific either, it's any big company. Folks just don't know how to build things. They are confined to whatever the new. hotness is. You would be shocked at how few people can actually run a service without kubernties, or ship software without using docker. Or worse, how to move off a legacy stack into these new fancy things.

[footlose_3815]

Each job, including Google, has thorough documentation for onramping of their eng tools.

Also, following your logic, recruiters wouldn't poach from Google.

[40yearoldman]

That is sort of what I am Ponting out. It is silly that folks are still trying to hire people from "Google".

I do a ton of interviews. The majority of Googlers can't solve any system or build anything without saying "spanner", or "Borg". They can sort of talk about what they do, but sure as hell can't build a spanner or Borg. About 50% of them can't even name the equivalent outside of google.

Sometimes the interview question is to solve something hard, and Googlers point to some internal google tool that only google has, but has no clue on how to actually build that tool.

Googlers live in a walled garden, and basically have to go back to school once they leave google and start working at another company.

Is this true for all goggles? No, google gobbles up a ton of people who have real world experience before google. But if you are dealing with people who interned at a few places and googled for 3 or even 5 years, then they probably are no better than any other new grad higher, but will cost you a ton more.