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by HopenHeyHi 1178 days ago
It is a degrees of separation thing. Logically derived and proven to be effective. Very hard to argue with the last part.

I understand how someone who has been inconvienced might perceive it differently but that in and of itself is by design and "priced in" as the goal is not to make 100% of travelers feel good but rather keep 100% of travelers safe.
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hobo_in_library 1178 days ago
Brilliant

All policies are fine as long as they only hurt Arabs and Arab-sympathizers (which are just synonyms for "terrorist").

Thank goodness policies like these never hurt Jews when applied in reverse.

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zidad 1177 days ago
So if it's for the safety of the travelers how logical is it that half of these "inconveniences" happen AFTER the actual flight?
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orangepurple 1178 days ago
What????
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HopenHeyHi 1178 days ago
Understand that none of the counter measures are derived from hypotheticals.

For example, one of the questions asked is "did you pack your own suitcase?"

They aren't going to search your suitcase because of your race. That would be bad. It is bad not because of touchy feely reasons but rather because it isn't optimally effective.

They search based on a far more sophisticated probabilistic threat model based on real world data. All the questions and the way they are asked have logic behind them. It works.

Does that answer your indignation noises?

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zidad 1177 days ago
They absolutely search your suitcase purely based on race/appearance. Given how often I've sat in the interrogation rooms with EU passport holders with an arab background, and they really only came over to visit the beach.

How you justify racial profiling, only show that you are completely clueless to what it's like being racially profiled ALL the time.

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HopenHeyHi 1177 days ago
That's great that they came over to visit the beach but nobody can look into your soul and know that and sometimes people who are not so nice don't just come over to visit the beach. This presents a challenging problem.

It sounds like you are under the impression that people are being inconvenienced simply out of spite or due to the discretion of some unfriendly TSA-type airport employee - nope. Understandable why you would perceive things as such but the reality is very different, there is quite a lot going on, before you even board the plane, that you don't see. Places where it really matters, like Israel, cannot afford to engage in security theatre, it is all derived by logic.

How it works as is explained in great detail in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Y1kJpHBn50

Appeals to emotion mean nothing to me. I get that it feels bad and don't particularly care as being blown up feels worse, promise. If after watching that you have pragmatic improvements to suggest I am all ears. It completely addresses your point, in fact it even explains how this approach probably doesn't scale to larger airports/other-countries.

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