[anyfactor]

I don't do proper web dev work and tried Django ages ago. So, this is a very narrow opinion. I use mainly flask and firebase these days as a indiehacker.

I don't think currenlty there are any solid alternatives beyond Nestjs+Typescript, ruby on rails and laravel. The sentimemt of their community is that these frameworks are built for web development in mind. While I think for Python based web framework like Django the sentiment is that you are using Python already and here is a web framework written in Python. If you look at some of the Rust based web frameworks you will understand what I am saying. The merit of the framework is the language it was written in. This makes hiring web developers difficult as most candidates will be Python Developer who knows Django and not web developers who knows Python. There are very few people who learned Python to use Django. But everyone learned javascript to use nodejs, or ruby to use ruby on rails.

If I am writing enterprise level where Python is used I will pick one of those 3 frameworks and use a Python based API framework like DRF or FastAPI for building internal APIs.

[winrid]

Python is literally the easiest language to learn. Any web dev can pick it up, and Django is much more productive than NestJS. Rails and Laravel are nice options too. No Rust or Java options come close.

[Danjoe4]

The admin page, DB integration, robust feature set, and insanely good documentation make Django a slam dunk for me. I do understand your sentiment though and for any website that requires a lot of interactivity you need a JS oriented framework like NextJS.

If I need a database and interactivity I pair NextJS with Django Restapi.

[toyg]

> everyone learned javascript to use nodejs

Wut? It's more a case of "everyone learned javascript to do button rollovers in the browser, and then nodejs allowed them to do more".