[happytoexplain]

I disagree harshly with the parent, but I think your point of view is much more damaging. The artists don't need to exhibit any of these dramatic subversive attitudes, personality flaws, or political psychology plays to simply shoehorn booty-shaking into their superhero show (Occam's razor). I think your layering-on of all these other horrible things is actually indicative of a much more hateful attitude than the one you are accusing them of.

[Chris2048]

> The artists don't need to exhibit any of these dramatic subversive attitudes

True, but if we take She-Hulk as an example, all the other stuff in the movie imply they do. In other words, they didn't simply shoehorn in booty-shaking, but rather included it in a political context.

If you disagree these layers exist, please, engage with the discussion and reason why - but simply gaslighting the poster, and implying they have a "hateful attitude" is itself a political play.

[xwkd]

Don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining.

[happytoexplain]

I'm not. The kinds of things that people say that you are probably thinking of when you make a criticism like in your original post absolutely are real and deserve your criticism (in fact, I'd put jrm4's tone in that category!) - but over-applying that criticism does harm to a position that is justified in other contexts. Remember, when you see somebody (e.g. maybe a writer or fan for a show...) make a criticism of a group you are a member of, they are sometimes referring to something truly deserving of criticism. Always try to keep your criticisms as focused as possible in turn, to avoid the vicious cycle of political/social hatred (especially in the context of fictional media, where it produces a tone that is particularly obnoxious/petty).