[atlasunshrugged]

Having lived in SF, London, Berlin, and now DC, I can tell you that DC's is totally subpar in comparison to any I encountered in Europe. Not only in the year that I've been there have there been multiple shootings on the subway in that time but I can't remember a single instance where I didn't see someone hopping the turnstile and the trains are quite slow (in terms of number of trains per hour).

[dougmwne]

Are you saying that DC was worse than SF? I find that hard to believe. SF has worse coverage, fewer trains and felt much more dangerous.

I was able to live in DC for 4 years without a car but with a bike and my walking shoes and found it a mostly happy experience. The trains could have been more frequent and some areas of the city had sparse coverage, but it was not so bad. Europe and NYC is a leap better of course.

Sounds like I missed a crime wave though. That’s a shame, I remember the metro system being safe and clean during the 2010’s.

[atlasunshrugged]

No, I was saying that it was subpar in DC compared to Europe. SF doesn't even register, it's just pathetic.

[999900000999]

It's functional, compared to most of the US where public transportation effectively doesn't exist.

I agree Europe is a step above, but to be fair European cities tend to be much more compact. Public transportation can't work well when things are spread out