[ambyra]

Poles used to come to England to do lower level jobs, pick fruit, clean houses. Definitely racism and resentment here. Old school European racism sees Eastern Europeans as a lower level white, a concept I don’t think a lot of Americans are familiar with. There were white slaves back in the day too. It’s where the word comes from; the Slavic people.

[tryptophan]

No that is not where the word comes from. Slav is an English-ization of “slowanie” (what slavs call their group) which means “people of the word “ or people who can talk or something along those lines.

[ambyra]

That’s what it means to the Slavic people themselves. To foreigners Slav was synonymous with slavery.

https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/slave

[pfannkuchen]

I believe the claim is that the word “slave” is derived from the word “slav”, not the other way around.

[ambyra]

Yeah. In Polish Slav means a speaker, or person of our word. In Latin, it meant person who we can take to do work for free, but the Polish came up with the term first.

Our old word for foreigner is the same as non speaker or mute, Niemcy, which now specifically refers to the Germans. I guess they were our first foreigners.