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by rcme 1173 days ago
Good point, although this is also included in your link:

> This leaves about $90 billion in securities and other SVB assets in the hands of the FDIC, and an estimated cost of the failure to the Deposit Insurance Fund of about $20 billion.

So the real number is 50 + 90 = 140.

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> the real number is 50 + 90 = 140

This doesn’t make sense. You’re adding deposits (liabilities) to assets. $56bn deposits doesn’t mean $56bn of cash in a vault, it means $56bn owed to depositors.

It also doesn't make sense that SVB would need a bailout if they had 50B in liabilities and 90B in assets.
> doesn't make sense that SVB would need a bailout if they had 50B in liabilities and 90B in assets

Deposits aren’t all SVB’s liabilities, though they were most of them. Their balance sheet changed between failure and disposition. And the FDIC is giving the acquirer some guarantees on the assets, which are being acquired for substantially less than $90bn.

It's more likely that the 50B number doesn't represent the full FDIC coverage for deposits. For instance, this article claims that the bank was about to have 100B withdrawn the day the FDIC took over: https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/28/svb-customers-tried-to-pull-...

I think most likely is that the FDIC has had the bank for a number of weeks and allowed a large number of withdrawals. Those withdrawals are counted as part of the 18B cost to the FDIC, but aren't part of the 50B that was sold.

> the 50B number doesn't represent the full FDIC coverage for deposits

At some point in the past, sure, there were more deposits being emergency insured by the FDIC, which might reduce that 5,200x figure by up to an order of magnitude. I would also clarify, however, that the emergency insurance kicked in two days after the FDIC put SVB into receivership.

> those withdrawals are counted as part of the 18B cost to the FDIC

No, they’re not. The discount offered on the assets is where the loss comes from.

The discount was only 16.5B