[seanmcdirmid]

https://www.city-journal.org/seattle-homelessness

> At the same time, according to the Puget Sound Business Journal, the Seattle metro area spends more than $1 billion fighting homelessness every year. That’s nearly $100,000 for every homeless man, woman, and child in King County, yet the crisis seems only to have deepened, with more addiction, more crime, and more tent encampments in residential neighborhoods. By any measure, the city’s efforts are not working.

For incarceration costs:

https://www.doc.wa.gov/docs/publications/reports/200-AR001.p...

About $110/day (so $40,150/year)

[heavyset_go]

I'm familiar with stats like this for other cities, but in my experience, it's common for those statistics to be misinterpreted.

Often these funds go towards housing people so they are no longer homeless, so you might have X people who are currently homeless, but Y people relying on that $1B to remain housed.

Because of that, it's inaccurate to divide $1B by X and then claim that's how much going towards individuals who are still homeless anyway, when it is more accurate to divide that figure by X+Y.

[lazyasciiart]

This stat isn't even being misinterpreted, it's being lied about. The $1billion is an imaginary number that includes theoretical lost tourism revenue, a pretense at annual spending of the capital costs for buildings used by welfare services, etc.

[com2kid]

What that, obscenely slanted, first link doesn't mention, is that each year around 10k homeless people in Seattle get off the streets.

It isn't like that money is being flushed down a hole, results are being had on an individual basis, but for reasons that are nationwide in scope, the overall problem (# of homeless people on the streets of Seattle) isn't getting any better.

National problems require national solutions, but half the senate is perfectly happy to offload the cost of social ills onto coastal metros.

[seanmcdirmid]

The chronic homeless cases (the ones that can’t recover quickly) eat up around 80% of that money, so it still isn’t that far off. The low hanging fruit cases just need housing, and aren’t going to destroy or use it to make meth, they don’t require anywhere bear $100k/year in services.

[lazyasciiart]

Oh, look, you are getting your info exactly where I guessed. Not that impressive, it's always easier to identify the source of made up facts.

[sandworm101]

>> Seattle metro area spends more than $1 billion fighting homelessness every year.

Think about how monumentally worse the problem might be if they didn't spend that money. There are very likely tens of thousands more people who would be homeless if not for government support/programs. Just imagine how many people would be on the streets in a week if EI and disability income streams were cut.

[aziaziazi]

Does every homeless in Seattle is a fentanyl addict ?

[seanmcdirmid]

No, only the ones that are acting nuts on the streets, the ones you are more likely notice more and the ones that aren’t helped without a lot of resources.

[smcl]

Yikes, Chris Rufo...

[lynx23]

How inefficient is this system, actually? I doubt one homeless man in seattle can cost 2 times as much as I earn per year. What are you spending all these dollars on? A free visit to a prostitute every week? Oh, I forgot, thats illegal in the US...