[airstrike]

> Also: imagine the year is 1900. You are saying that steam power and electricity is causing way too many changes way too fast so they put a moratorium on it until the year 2500.

Great analogy. About a decade later, the world was fighting World War I on the back of the technological advances of the turn of the century. It was war on a scale never seen before. Literally orders of magnitude deadlier, bigger, more transformational and explosive. The word would never be the same.

This time, should we expect another war?

I'm not saying we should pause—it makes no sense, to your point. Instead, I'm just saying: brace. I like to think we (and our organic matter relatives) are hard to kill. Or at least to completely eradicate... so we will be around, or some proxy for us.

Time to replay the Mass Effect trilogy

[T-A]

> This time, should we expect another war?

You just reminded me of de Garis' "Artilect War":

https://www.forbes.com/2009/06/18/cosmist-terran-cyborgist-o...

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/221328932_The_Artil...

[airstrike]

The guy seems a little.. unhinged, based on what's in his Wikipedia article, but we may very well go down that path at some point (just not in the way he predicted with Moore's law taking us to atom-sized bits, embryofactoring and whatnot, at least not in the 2020s or 2030s...)

> Humanity will split into 3 major camps, the “Cosmists” (in favor of building artilects), the “Terrans” (opposed to building artilects), and the “Cyborgs” (who want to become artilects themselves by adding components to their own human brains)

This did remind me of Civilization: Beyond Earth... https://civilization.fandom.com/wiki/Sid_Meier%27s_Civilizat...

[flangola7]

>I like to think we (and our organic matter relatives) are hard to kill. Or at least to completely eradicate... so we will be around, or some proxy for us.

What is your hard evidence or reasoning for this? As I see it humans are quite vulnerable and will be as trivial to inadvertently eradicate as the dodo bird.

[extasia]

Humans are much more resilient than dodo birds. Dodos were pretty devolved due to their insulated habitat[0].

0. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Island_gigantism

[Atreiden]

I think that's his point. Currently, we have no natural predators. We completely outclass every other species on Earth in intelligence, and it's easy to see how advantageous that trait has been.

What happens when we're no longer the Apex Intelligence?

[airstrike]

Which is why I expanded the notion of survival to include other organic matter relatives, as they may fare better than we will. Simply put, organic life is unlikely to disappear entirely, which in time (eons, really), could result in sentient organic life emerging again once the machines go their own way or some such

It's also a reason for us to colonize space as fast as possible ;-) it's easier to run away in 3D

[kvetching]

Slaughterbot mini kamikaze drones were hypothesized 5 years ago - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fa9lVwHHqg AI & drone tech is fast enough that it would be trivial to build these now