[pmoriarty]

> Is Stockfish intelligent?

> Is a system with A pathfinding intelligent?*

I'm not sure if we should get stuck on definitions of intelligence.

The fact is that these tools are useful, as are the currently existing AI's. The latter can also pass for humans, in many ways, while the algorithms you mentioned can only pass for humans in very narrow domains. Both can exceed human performance in some ways.

Eventually, AI's may be indistinguishable from human or convince humans that they should be treated differently from "mere" programs and algorithms, and at that point we will have entered a new era, call it what you will.

[leereeves]

We'll have to "get stuck on" definitions of intelligence if we want to talk precisely about what LLMs are capable of.

[pmoriarty]

Not necessarily, as we can just evaluate them on their performance as we give them ever greater challenges.

To do this we do not need to consider whether they're intelligent at all.