[cjdoc29]

I really like Apple's implementation of passwords, passkeys, etc. But...I had a hard time explaining this to my mom.

She uses it to generate her passwords and fill-in within Safari which is great!

But there's no "Passwords" app, and she didn't know to go into Settings to reference a password when Safari doesn't recognize a password field (probably the website's fault).

2FA is also a confusing experience, but 2FA is also just confusing enough for her where Apple isn't really the problem here.

[HnUser12]

Someone linked this on the top

https://rmondello.com/passwords-shortcut/

You should be add this to home-screen like an app. Should make it a bit easier open passwords.

[reaperducer]

But there's no "Passwords" app

It's called Keychain Access.

[cj]

The problem is Keychain Access doesn't pass the "mom test" (would you average consumer - e.g. your mom - actually use it)

[waynecochran]

Keychain Access doesn't pass the "me" test and I have a PhD in CS.

[shagie]

Since I use it quite a bit for secure notes, I've got it pinned in my toolbar. From the top down I've got Finder, System settings, Keychain Access, HomeKit, Launchpad, Safari... and then other things.

The thing is, its the 3rd one down.

[Hamuko]

No password manager passes that as far as I'm concerned.

[airstrike]

They don't even know why it's called that

[shagie]

Because you can store non-passwords in there too.

Secure notes, your own signing certificates, keys, root CAs, and specific self signed certs you've accepted for SSL.

[airstrike]

Still, none of that means anything to the average user. Searching for "passwords" in Spotlight should also take you to your passwords

[shagie]

Make an alias to Keychain access. Name it "Passwords" and have that a directory that is indexed by Spotlight (the Utilities directory under Applications where Keychain Access is found works fine).

This will then show up in the launchpad. https://i.imgur.com/IRPOMC5.png

Searching for 'pass' in Spotlight does bring up Keychain access - as that's in the apps list of Keywords... however the list of apps is way down on the scrolling https://i.imgur.com/KFUC0G0.png - it found 'password' as a string in 100 python files that I had to scroll through first.

[HeavyFeather]

Are you talking about that utility that looks straight out of Windows 98? Surely it could use some love in 2023. I don’t think I’ve ever seen it updated, it’s not an acceptable UI for consumers.

[squeaky-clean]

Isn't Keychain Access MacOS only? It's not available on iPhone.

[cjdoc29]

iOS does not have "Keychain Access" as a named setting or app.

MacOS has both Keychain Access as a standalone app, and Passwords as a section in your settings. The latter is dedicated to purely passwords that you, as the user, make. Keychain Access also contains passwords for Wi-Fi and other systems.