[ttfkam]

Or… y'know… just stop worrying about niggling details like this and just use Svelte.

Svelte out of the box is much faster than React. You have to be well down the road of optimization before you hit parity, and optimized is almost never easier to understand.

Computers don't care about code. They're satisfied with 1s and 0s. Code is for humans. The cleaner, the simpler, and the less of it, the better. More code = more bugs.

[satvikpendem]

I won't use Svelte for the simple reason that I don't like templating languages. Same reason I switched from Vue to React.

[ttfkam]

You mean you like your templates to be explicitly defined as a JS/TS render function.

JSX is a templating language.

[satvikpendem]

> JSX may remind you of a template language, but it comes with the full power of JavaScript. [0]

That's the difference. I don't want to relearn how to do for and if-statements.

[0] https://legacy.reactjs.org/docs/introducing-jsx.html

[ttfkam]

> I don't want to relearn how to do for and if-statements.

…so you'll learn the weird details of render(…), learn how to manage updating a whole extra DOM on top of the existing browser DOM, learn to deal with the abstraction leaks of shouldComponentUpdate, React.PureComponent, useMemo, useCallback, and concurrent mode…

…just so you can avoid learning {#if}{/if} and {#each}{/each}. Got it. TOTALLY makes sense.

#StockholmSyndrome

Do you put onclick handlers on your divs to go to other URLs too?

[satvikpendem]

Do you understand that JSX is not React-specific? Vue and Solid both have it. Solid for example does not use a VDOM, and I'm quite happy with React as it conforms to a functional style unlike the vast majority of JS frameworks out there that have some random version of reactivity thrown in that makes it hard to manage local state, so yes, it TOTALLY makes sense. If you like Svelte, good for you, but again, I won't learn yet another templating language and have to go through yet another way of working out how `map`s and `fold`s work in this new DSL. Perhaps you should lay off the snark, but it looks like you have some specific fascination with JSX, as listed in your profile, so I don't think this will be a fruitful conversation.

[dminik]

That's kind of funny considering you can't use `for` and `if` in JSX. I think you meant `.map` and the surprising rules of the `&&` operator.