[saurik]

FWIW, he had told me that five years ago. I fully admit 5 is as close to 10 as it is to 0, though ;P. But like, even if he was stuck using an old stat the idea that he wants to know all of them isn't confidence inspiring from this angle. I asked him what he would do if someone came to him with a lead pipe and threatened him with a demand to poison his directory server and he seemed confident until I asked him the same question about his family and it frankly felt like he hadn't really considered it before, which was crazy to me.

The point being, though, that Tor isn't really a decentralized design as the cabal is too small and the community is too tight: I am just listing it as a thing that clearly isn't decentralized and anonymous / permissionless in one place (the servers) and just kind of throws up its hands at the issue of dealing with a bratty set of users; it works because, by and large, not many people want to use it and not enough people are unhappy enough that it exists to DoS it out of existence.

[bauruine]

I think he said it sometimes after KAX17 so around 2022 but honestly I'm not exactly sure since when he doesn't know that much anymore maybe it has been till a few years ago and not 10.

Yeah you're right it's a small group with a lot power. I have no solution to make it decentralized but I'm pretty sure if the solution includes "money" it's not a solution I like.