[luckylion]

I'm not demonizing anyone, I'm talking about incentives.

And I've come to my understanding of how they work on government employees by talking to, and working with (as a consultant), government employees. There's a certain bureaucratic counterproductivity that I've only ever encountered in government employees.

If that doesn't match your experience and government in your area is highly efficient and you wouldn't change a thing, that's great and I envy you, but it's not my experience at all.

[wolverine876]

> government in your area is highly efficient and you wouldn't change a thing

More strawperson hyberbole. Hyberbole expresses only emotion; it adds nothing and gives us nothing to talk about on the merits.

So, you're feeling frustrated? Angry?

[1letterunixname]

Please don't antagonize a commenter or trivialize their condition. There are millions of frustrated Americans who can't articulate their discomforts much less their sources. There are many possibilities:

1. Loss of privilege and prestige socially and/or geopolitically

2. Lower income, more stress, working harder, and less financial freedom to have a happy enough life

3. Loss of community

4. Loss of safety

[luckylion]

Annoyed, I'd say, but it's okay. You want to talk about something else than what I was talking about. I cannot follow you there.