[halotrope]

Check out https://markets.sh news. They are actually text only, from many different sources, clustered and summarized. It is really good to get a gist of what’s currently important without having to “read news” with the known nuisances that come with it.

Edit, thank you for the feedback. Some clarifications:

- we launched the news feature literally yesterday, it is MVP level so expect inaccuracies especially in the summaries. We are using our own models and are in the process of tuning and refining them. Clicking on the cluster will give you the actual headline, titles and sources for each cluster.

- the ordering of the feed is super simple right now. We will improve the weighting based on recency, magnitude of the story, coverage, parties involved etc.

- This is not text-only like text.npr.org but in the sense of not being stuffed with ads, autoplay videos and images. Both a real text-only statically rendered page and RSS feed are in the works.

[_a_a_a_]

Perhaps I'm missing something but for a text-only interface, why do you need javescript? I always disable it in my browser and your site shows very little without it. Ran it in a VM to allow JS see what it did and got "Application error: a client-side exception has occurred (see the browser console for more information)."

[halotrope]

Yes sorry I should have been more clear here. Text-only as in no ads, video, etc. i will add a static build without any javascript to make up for it!

The site is focussed on financial data, charts and realtime updates. This is why it is javascript heavy despite visually simple.

[_a_a_a_]

Ah, gotcha! Please don't add a no-js site on my account, save your effort for something more profitable.

[halotrope]

No worries, it is actually just a cdn-cached next view with a barebones layout on the feed. We really care about internet culture, bandwidth and consumption options and try to facilitate them wherever feasible.

[_a_a_a_]

> We really care about internet culture, bandwidth

I wish 99% of sites gave a damn about these things. Well, I approve, and good luck!

[halotrope]

Me too! Luckily the open web now gets competition from LLMs. Hope this will clean up things. Seeing all these sloppy pages full of popups, ads and shit typography makes me so sad

[uxcolumbo]

Nice. Did you build this? If so, what's the tech stack you used?

I like the interface - compact and fast.

[halotrope]

Thanks! Yeah, I’m one of the founders. It’s Nextjs on Supabase. We launched the news clustering just yesterday so I thought it would be nice to get some stealth HN feedback for it.

We are planning to launch an API (rss style) for the news next week where you can get temporal clusters and everything. Imagine having full access to all of Twitter trending but across all news sources.

We are trying to filter clickbait, SEO spam as effectively as possible while keeping nuance to the dataset.

Please sign up for an account or follow us on twitter if you would like to stay in the loop.

[SpaghettiX]

Genuine question: I wonder why you didn't think to disclose your relationship with the product? I notice this a lot, and it ruins my perspective of the product. Haven't you seen people start their comments with "full disclosure, I made this" type sentences.

[tasuki]

Was it a relevant suggestion for you? If yes, then what benefit does the disclosure provide? If not, then downvote and say so?

In this particular case, I think halotrope just didn't think the dislosure was necessary. They have a link to the website in their profile and aren't trying to hide the affiliation.

Full disclosure: I'm not related to halotrope in any way nor to the website in question.

[th15row]

Not the OP but yes, I think it's tacky. If you're shamelessly plug your own product you should say so.

[Dalewyn]

Since you asked for some, here's my immediate 2 cents:

Please change the slide out on the left to be visible permanently.

I have 1920 pixels of horizontal screen real estate, and the page is quite literally half empty whitespace anyway. For what conceivable reason is that menu on the left a hidden-by-default slide out? It even hides pertinent stock information.

Also concerning the stock information, please add some whitespace margin on the bottom. Chrome displays URL information on the bottom left of the window when hovering links and it overlaps and obstructs visibility of whatever stock ends up displayed at the bottom left of the window.

[halotrope]

Thank you, the feedback is appreciated and makes a lot of sense! I have added a little pin icon on the bottom left of the sidebar to keep it open.

[nntwozz]

If you add stocks to your watchlist it will populate the empty whitespace with a table containing Watchlist Movers.

[halotrope]

Thank you for the whitespace suggestion too, will check that tomorrow.

[nntwozz]

I like this, is your quote data live or delayed? Sparklines in your watchlist would be most welcome, plus better charts in general; candlesticks, range % between two points etc.

[halotrope]

Thank you! We have realtime data but IEX only, sorting the contract work out for at the moment to get tick-level realtime for US equities

The sparklines and better charts are being worked on. We hope to get a new version out early April, right now focussing on the API and Chat functionality.

[basch]

Have you used Modo News?

It would be nice if your interface sorted the sources by bias and let you side between different summaries. In the upper right corner of Modo you can swap between timeline view (seeing past incarnations of a story as it progresses, or lean view that let’s you see various bias.)

[jmclnx]

I just want to say "me too", the site is great. I rarely use twitter, but will follow you.

But dumb question, what do I follow ? :)

[halotrope]

Thank you! Sorry, lol. @markets_sh

[dublinben]

Comment

The summaries for several headlines are completely bogus, which undermines any credibility that this was a reliable site. For example, the Lufthansa Strike blames a technical issue, not the strike that all linked articles discuss. Next, the Khazahstan election summary mentions voters in Turkey and Turkmenistan. There’s also duplicated stories, and other obvious issues any human editor would catch.

I suspect this is secretly powered by some AI that doesn’t actually work all that well.

[halotrope]

Hi, thank you for the feedback. I should have added that we launched it yesterday so it there is still some quirks. Yes, we use language models to do the summaries, they are not perfect yet and the feed ordering also needs to be improved.

Since you get the actual news headlines and teaser on the detail, we assume some inaccuracies are ok for now. The primary focus right now is clustering and a high-level overview over the news landscape. Especially to get perspectives about an event from many different sources.

We are iterating quickly and expect this to somewhat stable and reliable by mid April.

Would appreciate if you had a look back again then to share your feedback.

[francoma]

Hi, cool project! Which language models are you using for the summaries?

[halotrope]

Quite a few actually. We will do a writeup once everyting is stable and post it on HN

[reaperducer]

This is not text-only like text.npr.org but in the sense of not being stuffed with ads, autoplay videos and images

Ah. That explains why in Lynx all I see is a dozen instances of:

  Loading
   This is also still loading.
  This will be loaded shortly.

[drstewart]

>They are actually text only,

Interesting claim considering there are 276 image tags in the HTML: https://imgur.com/a/x9ODk0r

[halotrope]

The icons are super small but I get your point. Text-only in a way of no autoplay video, ads, big pictures etc right now. We are planning to launch true (like text.npr.org) text version and RSS as well.

[someuser54541]

How do you retrieve news topics? Are you using some sort of news API or are you just scraping a ton of sites?

If the latter, isn't that illegal or against their terms of service in some way?

[Etheryte]

This seems very promising. Have you considered adding an RSS feed?

[halotrope]

Thank you! Yes we are hoping to launch the Rest API and RSS within March

[Etheryte]

That sounds very nice, I've been looking for a good service like this. Is there a way to subscribe for updates so I know when new features are released?

[halotrope]

@markets_sh on Twitter. We are planning to add a newsletter but all suffer from email marketing fatigue a bit.

[Etheryte]

Cool, thanks a lot!

[nntwozz]

I can't find a way to delete my account in settings. How do you do it?

[halotrope]

Sorry, I will add a button right now. This was in the backlog a bit too long.

[nntwozz]

Alright, I still can't find any button though. By the way, newsletter notifications were automatically checked, I think most users would prefer to have it disabled by default.

[wael444]

where

[stargrazer]

I can't copy text from articles. Is that by design?

[halotrope]

Sorry that must be a bug. Looking into it!