[ClumsyPilot]

> And I guess the brains behind a Ferrari enjoy their work more than engineers designing said bus

If we want to improve lives of workers, I am game, but can we start by helping all the amazon can drivers that pee in a bottle?

[looping__lui]

Maybe start with taxing the rich higher taxes, have minimum wage, maximum allowable working hours and all that stuff. The country I live in does that. You unemployed with three kids? Government pays your housing, free education for school and college (which is the same for rich and poor) and free healthcare.

Why does designing a Ferrari have anything to do with your broken society? It’s not about the Ferrari - it’s about middle class upwards being cheap. Pay higher taxes and your problems on “improve live of workers” will go away.

I pay approx. 60-65% on my gross income. Do the same and we can start talking again.

[looping__lui]

… and don’t be cheap about “oh no, I cant because I can’t change the tax system”. Start tipping everyone rendering you a service until 65% of your gross income is gone every month. That UPS driver picking up your package - here’s 50$. That school teacher staying late at a parent conference. Take my money. The lady in the supermarket - take the $100 because I don’t need it. At least you can feel good about it because you do it voluntarily. You can fix it with (your own) money.

[ClumsyPilot]

> That school teacher staying late at a parent conference. Take my money.

Oof, I would be carefull eith that, it could be interpreted as a bribe and get you in trouble

[looping__lui]

Then tip the rest.

[ClumsyPilot]

okay, you've solved like 10% of the problem.

You what would actuslly help? Start a union, run it well.