[CamperBob2]

Oh, well, OK, if it was only some basic crowd-control gear such as machine guns and what-not, no biggie, I guess. We cool.

[luckylion]

The original argument was that Russia used it as a pretense to get the equipment to then use it in Ukraine. Did you think Russia didn't have any machine guns before 2014?

[stametseater]

Who said machine guns? aliyfarah, the guy who's trying to discredit the point.

[aliyfarah]

They did provide machine guns. [1]

[1] https://www.forbes.com/sites/hisutton/2020/06/11/image-shows...

[CamperBob2]

Try that argument with the ITAR people sometime, see how it works out for you.