[tptacek]

Having huge sprawling swarms of VMs is, for some teams, a problem to be solved, not a fact of life to be designed around.

[Melingo]

Sry I'm not getting your point.

If I understand it right: VMS were not there because people needed VMS they were there because people needed compute.

We moved everything to k8s and we were able to do this because k8s can

[tptacek]

The point is to deliver a small set of applications, not to come up with the most horizontally scalable possible deployment fabric.