[pseudo0]

> and I have talked to many women who describe that feeling in different words.

This illustrates my exact point - you are basing your opinion on the number of people who have opened up to you about their feelings. Men in general don't do that, especially when it involves fear and vulnerability.

> But I think you do a disservice to both men and women when you look at "violent crime" stats (skewed heavily by gang activity most of us will never encounter regardless of gender)

Inter-gang violence is definitely overrepresented in murder and shooting stats, but I doubt it has much of an impact on general violent crime stats. Gang members typically don't call the cops when they are victims of crimes, and are unlikely to answer crime victimization surveys from the government.

> Any time I've encountered a woman while doing so, they would cross the street, be holding keys in their hands, or both.

That isn't normal. Either the women in your neighborhood listen to way too many true crime podcasts, or you are scarier looking than you think.

> But if you ever listen to women, read women, or even believe the comments you see on this page from women, you might just understand life a little more.

The condescension really is not needed or constructive.

[pwinnski]

You don't know me nor the men I've talked to. I have had deep meaningful conversations about fears and vulnerability with many men, and they almost never involved physical safety. Conversations about shame, and emotional pain, and fear of failure and being perceived as weak, yes. About being attacked on the street, almost never.

You doubt, and you suspect, and you believe. More than three-quarters of rapes and sexual assaults are not reported[0]. Violent crimes involving injury, or murder, are reported by the medical personnel involved. When you rely on one set of statistics to negate widespread fears, and ignore all reports or statistics that support them, you don't end up with a clear view of things.

The experiences I describe are 100% normal in suburbs all around America. It's not just once or twice, and I'm not the only man to have noticed this.

If you don't want condescension, base your opinions on facts rather than counter-factual beliefs and feelings. I'm linking to statistics and reports, and you're parroting stereotypical generalizations countered by comments from women on this very page.

I am taking your statements at face value, but at this point it is starting to honestly feel like you're trolling, so carry on.

0. https://www.statista.com/statistics/251934/usa--percentage-o...

[pseudo0]

I'm the one who gave hard numbers showing that men make up the majority of victims of violent crime, which you tried to handwave away by blaming gang members...

Agreed that this discussion is going nowhere useful though.