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by ratboy666 1179 days ago
Your comment was extremely offensive. Let me take but one example: How many unmarked graves of children and infants behind "care homes" in Canada are there? How does that have to do with nuns?

(yes, Tuskeegee, and syphilis is a known example of very bad behavior. However, that does not include Canada or Ireland) Please apologize for that comment. Or, back it up with data.

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Your comment was extremely offensive.

If you think you're offended, imagine how the children and their families felt.

https://www.npr.org/2021/07/01/1012100926/graves-found-at-ne...

A Canadian Indigenous group said Wednesday a search using ground-penetrating radar has found 182 human remains in unmarked graves at a site near a former Catholic Church-run residential school that housed Indigenous children taken from their families.

https://www.americamagazine.org/politics-society/2021/06/24/...

Over 600 bodies found at another Catholic school for Indigenous children in Canada

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/mar/03/mass-grave-of-...

A mass grave containing the remains of babies and children has been discovered at a former Catholic care home in Ireland where it has been alleged up to 800 died, government-appointed investigators said on Friday.

Let us take the word as published by the CBC (pick another source). The idea (tldr) is that "At this point, no mass grave has been discovered, but more than a thousand potential unmarked graves have already been located, with many more Indigenous Nations just beginning their investigations."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/opinion/opinion-residential-schools-...

Like I said, offensive, and apologies are in order. I do not know the issue in Ireland. Since I am a first-generation immigrant to Canada, I have no stake in this. But "denialism"? Since when is a demand for proof a denial? Especially for something as sensitive as making the accusation that a Religion is Genocidal. I am not Catholic. I am not Muslim. Nor am I Jewish (no, I am NOT going to bring my own faith into this discussion). But I would not level that accusation against any believer.

Now to continue:

https://globalnews.ca/news/7996606/cranbrook-residential-sch...

Yes, people died. Quite a few from TB. and...

"The concern for Pierre is that the term “unmarked grave” is now so closely associated with victims of Canada’s residential school system.

“To just assume that every unmarked grave inside a graveyard is already tied to a residential school, we’ve got to be a little bit more respectful of our people who are buried in our graveyards,” Pierre said.

The graveyard near Cranbrook originally dates back to Christian missionaries who settled in the area in the early 1800s, prior to the construction of the school. A church and a hospital were also built in the area.

It eventually became a graveyard for the community, which it remains to this day."

There is no suggestion of "foul play" here. Wooden markers will disintegrate. Mass grave? Burial yard? Yes, words do matter.

Pope Francis made a penitential visit to Canada in 2022. That's a "haha, yeah, we screwed up" trip. You could have looked that up for yourself but ... denial, instead.

They're Catholic care homes, of course they were run by nuns.

Do some research, look into the Catholic care homes for unwed mothers in Ireland. I have no idea what sources you'll accept and which ones you will reject, so I won't bother doing any pick and shovel work for you.

If you're offended, well, you're going to stay offended, largely because you want to.

pick another source

No. If you insist on it, though, you can find countless other sources with information on the countless other atrocities that have been committed.

I have no stake in this. But "denialism"?

What are you talking about? Did you get lost in the comments?

Anyway, it's hilarious that you'll refuse to read one news source, ignore all the other articles, but latch on to one article trying to spin a weird narrative that, what, natives were burying their own en masse, coincidentally next to residential schools? Or that the abused women and children in Ireland just happened to be buried in the basement in astonishingly high numbers?

Finally, you seem to be hung up on the concept of wooden markers disintegrating while ignoring that so many children shouldn't be dying in the first place, and that there are first-hand accounts of intentionally starving babies that couldn't be "adopted" (i.e. sold) out of the Irish facilities.

As for being offensive, I don't care at all if you are offended by any of this. Your feelings about the atrocities mean nothing to me.

[0]Doesn't say anything about nuns in particular so the poster may have been over extrapolating and conflating nuns with the actions of the Catholic church but mass and unmarked graves did happen under at least the auspices of the church

[0]https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57592243