[unixgoddess]

downvotes shall come because this is HN, but that's ok... perhaps it's time to admit that modern western ideals are not compatible with the natural laws embedded in our body by several hundred thousand years of evolution...

[philipov]

Being civilized is about rising above our base natural instincts.

[unixgoddess]

Why should we be civilized? we should be happy, and choking down our instincts is not how we get to be happy.

[JustSomeNobody]

Yeah! To hell with how other people feel! /sarcasm

Good grief, most people simply don't act like this. Nor should they. Think about that.

[unixgoddess]

I'm someone who's been suffering for years because of some trashy people who do whatever they want without considering their impact on others. I'm not saying it's beautiful. I'm saying it's how life works. Don't like it? stop bringing new people in this world. That's what I'm doing.

About most people not doing it: first, it's a lie; there's a huge amount of rape hidden away in homes. Second: people don't do it because they are scared of the other people with guns and cages; which proves my point that might makes right in the real world.

[jackmott42]

Which ideal specifically are you referring to? Also which natural laws? Are their any natural laws or just natural tendencies?

[unixgoddess]

why was my reply flagged?

I thought on HN intellectual honesty mattered...

In no way was my comment offensive, thoughtless or otherwise worthy of censorship.

[shrimp_emoji]

If nature is unjust, change nature!

https://laboriacuboniks.net/manifesto/xenofeminism-a-politic...

[yreg]

What? I don't want to misinterpret you, so what are you actually saying? Because it sounds like an argument to switch to a Handmaid's Tale-like society.

[JustSomeNobody]

Oh, because you're horny, you think you have a right to chat up every woman you see in every situation you're in?

Time and a place.

[hirundo]

I feel that I have the right to be friendly to every person I see in almost every situation I'm in, including starting to chat with them. If they seem receptive I would feel that I have the right to escalate to flirting ... and then stop if it's not well received. With those provisos I see the time and place for sexual pursuit as most times and most places. But if the other person is not friendly and responsive, and you pursue the "chat up" or flirtation anyhow, that's not right regardless of time or place.

[JustSomeNobody]

> With those provisos I see the time and place for sexual pursuit as most times and most places.

But if collectively, women are saying, no it is not most times and most places, you're in the wrong.

Look, it's really simple. If you want a better chance of meeting someone who might be receptive to your flirting, you do it when they're feeling safe and secure.