[waboremo]

Not sure this really tracks. Local compute has always been strengthening as a steady incline. Yet we haven't really experienced any sort of pendulum shift, it's always been centralization territory.

The reasoning seems mostly obvious to me here: people do not care for the effort that decentralization requires. If given the option to run AI off some website to generate all you want, people will gladly do this over using their local hardware due to the setup required.

The unfortunate part is that it takes so much longer to create not for profit tooling that is just as easy to use, especially when the calling to turn that into your for profit business in such a lucrative field is so tempting. Just ask the people who have contributed to Blender for a decade now.

[jacquesm]

Absolutely not. Computers used to be extremely centralized and the decentralization revolution powered a ton of progress in both software development and hardware development.

You can run many AI applications locally today that would have required a massive investment in hardware not all that long ago. It's just that the bleeding edge is still in that territory. One major optimization avenue is the improvement of the models themselves, they are large because they have large numbers of parameters, but the bulk of those parameters has little to no effect on the model output and there is active research on 'model compression', which has the potential to be able to extract the working bits from a model while discarding the non-working bits without affecting the output and realize massive gains in efficiency (both in power consumption as well as for running the model).

Have a look at the kind of progress that happened in the chess world with the initial huge ML powered engines that are beaten by the kind of program that you can run on your phone nowadays.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockfish_(chess)

I fully expect something similar to happen to language models.

[waboremo]

The bleeding edge will always be in that territory. It still requires a massive investment today to run AI applications locally to produce anywhere near as good results. People are spending upwards of $2000 for a GPU just to get decent results when it comes to image generation, many forgoing this entirely and just giving Google a monthly fee to use their hardware.

Which is the point, decentralization will always be playing catch up here unless something really interesting happens. It has absolutely nothing to do with local compute power, that has always been on an incline. We just get fed scraps down the line.

[jacquesm]

Todays scraps are yesterdays state-of-the-art, and that's very logical and applies to far more than just AI applications. It's the way research and development result in products and the subsequent optimization. This has been true since the dawn of time in one form or another. At some point stone tools were high tech and next to affordably. Then it was bronze, then iron, and at some point we finally hit steam power. From there to the industrial revolution was a relatively short span and from there to electricity, electronics, solid state, computers, personal computers, mobile phones, smartphones and so on in ever decreasing steps.

If anything the steps are now so closely following each other that we have far more trouble tracking the societal changes and dealing with them than that we have a problem with the lag between technological advancement and its eventual commoditization.