[celim307]

Her is a forward looking movie in a lot of ways

Kids born today will grow up with their phones/device being their best friend and pet, like a Pokémon. You will be incredibly socially shunned if you don’t have one, and corporations will have not only data but an emotional hook into you for life

[Syonyk]

I'm not sure that's true. Even among teenagers right now, there's widespread recognition of the downsides of social media/always connectedness/etc, and if there's one thing we can rely on kids to do, it's to poke and prod the "sacred cows" of their parents generation to find out if they're any good or not.

The "always connected nature of cell phones" is pretty clearly not any good, and you can safely assume that most teenagers right now have watched at least one parent, grandparent, or relative get turned into something disgusting by being always connected - that one relative who's always on TwitFace railing about how evil Muskerberg is, or whatever the outrage of the day is. I've got a few. They're certain that Zuckerberg is a traitor, will be arrested Any Day Now, etc... and can't comprehend that by posting all about this on Facebook, all they're doing is helping out his yacht fund.

It's been an utterly toxic last decade of consumer technology, from human-first perspective, and I'd wager that those being born today will have the long view back over that and see how awful it's really been.

Remember: Last year, vinyl outsold CDs in "units moved" for the first time since the mid-1980s, and is showing no signs of slowing down any time soon. Instax cameras ("Polaroid, but newer") are quite popular. There's a rejection of modern digital/consumer tech going on.

[otabdeveloper4]

Talking to ChatGPT is like talking to a marketing ad copy robot. (Not surprising, because that's basically what it is.) I couldn't imagine something more square and unhip for kids-these-days.

It can't even parrot this year's memes!

[anon7725]

Sure, because it's tuned to be a corporate drone. You can easily tune it to respond using whatever tone you want. If it dropped the f bomb and mispelled things it would probably pass the Turing test with most people.

[dragonwriter]

> You can easily tune it

You literally can’t [0], though you can prompt it.

[0] Unless you are an OpenAI insider or someone else with privileged access to the model that isn’t provided to the public.

[anon7725]

<sigh> I mean that ChatGPT sounding like a "marketing ad copy robot" is not an inherent limitation of ChatGPT, it's merely the finishing stage of its training process. If OpenAI wanted to, they could have a hundred ChatGPT flavors.

[dragonwriter]

It’s true that OpenAI can change it radically by tuning, but to a very significant extent users can change it by prompting (which is more actionable for people building apps on top of the chat models) but lack the ability to do tuning (which OpenAI makes available for the base GPT-3.5, etc., models but not the chat models, including GPT-4, which is currently available, even via the API, only as a chat model.)