[camhart]

I just want to say, investors getting returns should be a goal of every for profit company (whos taken investor $$). Thats why investors risk their capital. That capital is responsible for the growth of most major tech companies. Its responsible for most jobs at tech companies.

Not saying this is an excuse to treat employees poorly. They're just as vital as the capital (employee hours is often quite literally whats bought with the capital). But I get tired of hearing only poo poo being thrown on investors.

[yunohn]

Having money should not be worth more than doing the work. Same goes for landlords.

[ThunderSizzle]

Then don't take the money. You don't need seed money to make a business. You can just spend all your time instead.

You might get to the point where you'll value that money more. Or not.

[yunohn]

Are you positing that companies should never go public?

Or even if public, that there is no physical limit we can impose on growth expectations?

[eldritch_4ier]

They are the same thing! Money is just a store of work. All money was earned via work. Investors give that stored work to companies. They’re essentially energy credits

[yunohn]

> Money is just a store of work

So, when you print more of it, whose work is being encapsulated into it?

And how do you explain profit margins? You are aware that things aren’t priced at just the cost of work, right?

[Vaslo]

Except for this whole thing called “risk” that investors and landlords undertake as part of the process.

[yunohn]

And that’s exactly the problem - risk does not confer inherent value. The employees are also taking on significant risk - clearly, if things go even slightly south for investors, they fire the employees first!