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by opinionsonly01 1192 days ago
> I have a tic disorder (not Tourette's, because my tics are all nonverbal).

That's still Tourette's. Tourette's is described as an involuntary movement /or/ sound.

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No. Tourette's is a tic disorder but not every tic is Tourette's. To quote Wikipedia:

> It is characterized by multiple movement (motor) tics and at least one vocal (phonic) tic.

> Tourette's is at the more severe end of a spectrum of tic disorders.

https://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/tourette/diagnosis.html

> Tics are sudden twitches, movements, or sounds that people do repeatedly. People who have tics cannot stop their body from doing these things. For example, a person with a motor tic might keep blinking over and over, or a person with a vocal tic might make a grunting sound unwillingly.

> The tic disorders differ from each other in terms of the type of tic present (motor or vocal, or a combination of both)

Why did you omit the immediately visible listing of three different tic disorders in your source?

    Three tic disorders are included in the DSM-5:
        - Tourette syndrome (TS, sometimes called Tourette disorder)
        - Persistent (sometimes called chronic) motor or vocal tic disorder
        - Provisional tic disorder
Again, tics don't automatically mean Tourette's.
> Again, tics don't automatically mean Tourette's.

And a non-verbal tic doesn't automatically mean it's not Tourette's.

A diagnosis of Tourette’s requires multiple motor tics and at least one verbal tic.

EDIT: “vocal,” I should say, not “verbal”

https://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/tourette/diagnosis.html

> Tics are sudden twitches, movements, or sounds that people do repeatedly. People who have tics cannot stop their body from doing these things. For example, a person with a motor tic might keep blinking over and over, or a person with a vocal tic might make a grunting sound unwillingly.

> The tic disorders differ from each other in terms of the type of tic present (motor or vocal, or a combination of both)

From that same page:

> To be diagnosed with TS, a person must

> * have two or more motor tics (for example, blinking or shrugging the shoulders) and at least one vocal tic (for example, humming, clearing the throat, or yelling out a word or phrase), although they might not always happen at the same time.

Strange that you are the expert on someone else's disorder, no?
https://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/tourette/diagnosis.html

> Tics are sudden twitches, movements, or sounds that people do repeatedly. People who have tics cannot stop their body from doing these things. For example, a person with a motor tic might keep blinking over and over, or a person with a vocal tic might make a grunting sound unwillingly.

> The tic disorders differ from each other in terms of the type of tic present (motor or vocal, or a combination of both)

If someone says they have a disorder that isn’t Tourette’s but is a bit like Tourette’s I just can’t fathom why someone with no other knowledge of the situation would be intent on somehow “proving them wrong” and establishing that it is Tourette’s.

The link you posted establishes that Tourette’s is a tic disorder. The person says they have a tic disorder that isn’t Tourette’s. I’m perfectly happy to take them at their word about that.

He claimed his is not Tourette's because his are "nonverbal", just because a tic is nonverbal doesn't magically mean it's not Tourette's.

You /assume/ I have no knowledge.