[monknomo]

you also don't have to set your union up exactly like SAG, either. My point is that the members of a union get to choose whether they are propping up mediocrity, gatekeeping or something else.

Maybe interviewing or freelancing lead generation is a hassle - your local IUP (International Union of Programmers) could help sling jobs your way like a pipefitter union.

Maybe you want something different? I bet we could find a model of some union doing that; the world is big

[slt2021]

We live in times of reddit/blind/social media - IT workers can already pseudo-unionize ehile staying under the radar.

We dont need formal union, but informal one - through information dissemination over Internet and absolutely voluntary participation and knowledge sharing - this is fine for me.

This is how we get leetcode practice, interview prep, job hopping, quiet quitting, overemployed, and other “best practices” to get edge over employers

[hot_gril]

They don't get to choose. The only way to get above-market pay is to keep potential employees out who would otherwise be offering better price:performance. That's the goal of a union, but they'll represent it in different ways, sometimes less obvious than others.

[monknomo]

A union is made out of its members, a union's goals generally match what the majority of dues paying members want. There is no platonic union waiting in the wings. There are just groups of employees that could all work together to get things the mutually want.

[hot_gril]

They can't really do anything without an exclusivity deal or some other way to force employees to be part of the union. If they don't have such a deal yet, they're probably going to pretend it's not their goal.