[PaulHoule]

… legs broken in the name of being taller, all sorts of weird injections, etc.

One of my son’s friends got into the wheat waffles and Tik Tok rabbit hole, refused my offer to teach him weightlifting but stole money from his mom to buy steroids, broke contact with my son because my son is taller and doesn’t want to be “heightmogged”. It’s crazy, it’s self-loathing, it is all about pathological narcissism but people writing about it can’t get past “misogyny” which is prevalent in that community but I’d say not primary.

[bulbosaur123]

> it is all about pathological narcissism

I don't think so. I think it's just about biological need to secure a suitable mate. Men are convinced (not entirely without basis) that you need to be hyper-competitive this day and age to even have a chance at procreating and young impressionable minds fall for it big time. I don't see what it has to do with "misogyny", the fact that women prefer taller guys is just common knowledge. Until now men didn't really have options, now they have leg lengthening.

[PaulHoule]

This kid is so isolated he never really got rejected by girls.

My son has another friend who is so isolated to be ann American Hikkiomori. That person is starting to think “it” is trans mostly because the only other person who spends time talking to “it” is an egg-Hatcher who has nothing better to do. Fortunately “it” is so depressed that “it” can’t clean “its” room and isn’t going to have the motivation or energy to leave the house and do all the hard work of transitioning. My son is convinced that “it” doesn’t know anything about real life women and gets all of “it(s)” ideas about women from hololive (talks like somebody from hololive.)

Many kids today are in deep trouble, I’ll say that.

[version_five]

  Men are convinced ...

I see no evidence that's close to universally true. Maybe a small number who have "gone down the tik-tok rabbit hole" as mentioned, but most people don't think in these terms.

[bulbosaur123]

I was addressing about subjects who obsess about surgeries. They are absolutely correct that looks matter big time and that they act as an amplifier of sorts (studies prove good looking people get treated better, have better career options, are seen as more intelligent, better romantic prospects, etc). However, the problem is they obsess about it to point of becoming unhealthy mentally. If a surgery can make you way better looking and the risks are relatively minimal, it is just a good, long-term bet to take. Problem is when the thinking becomes "cultish" or when BDD takes reign over ones mind. Generally not a problem for matured, analytical minds, but can mess up teenagers real bad, especially since they still haven't done growing.

[evandale]

Wheat waffles? Cursory google, is it actually just a guy you pay to send pictures to and he gives you a rating out of 10?

[PaulHoule]

... and who bitches that he doesn't have as many followers on Youtube as many stupid gamestreamers. He's got a cult following and people who joined his Discord received an email from Discord to the effect of "Did you know you joined a hate group? You'd better watch which Discords you join..."

[debacle]

What is a wheat waffle?