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by pclmulqdq 1191 days ago
People who dick around like that in a car find themselves in jail really quickly. People who do it on a bike wave self-righteously at the police while flagrantly violating the law, and get away with it.
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Bollocks they do. People dick about in cars ALL the time. YouTube is full of people acting like knobheads in cars and getting away with it.

I know Cambridge really well and I know people that regularly race their cars on the A14 at night.

Do you really think all the people buying tuning kits are doing so because they like sticking to the speed limit?

When it comes to obeying traffic lights you won't be waiting long to see cars tailgating through amber. That happens every time.

Finally I'd point to the number of drivers still on the road with more than 12 points on their licence. They just plead extenuating circumstances in court and get away with it. They almost never find themselves in gaol. The real kicker is that those that do end up in prison on a Dangerous Driving charge never permanently loose their licenses.

I watched a car drive straight into someone yesterday. The police refused to come out.

I don’t see how that squares with your statement at all.

I have video proof of a car ramming me when pushing into my lane. Police declined to investigate because there “no proof of deliberate action.”
That's because an accident and a traffic violation are different. Minor accidents are usually handled without police intervention, and this is by design.
See my other comment: he pulled out without looking because he was in the middle of cutting up other road users (me in this case). That’s driving without due care and attention which is a traffic violation in the U.K.

The police don’t care. What mechanism will put him in jail?

"Driving without due care and attention" sounds like a statute that has a much more specific interpretation than you think, and the police probably aren't the ones who misinterpreted that here. "Careless driving" and "reckless driving" are against the law in many states in the US, but both actually have very specific interpretations that are not entirely contained in the text of the statute. This is the joy of living in a common law country.

Things like running red lights, not stopping at stop signs, and speeding are much easier for laypeople to judge, and it sounds like none of that was happening here.

So just to be clear “drivers who fuck around go to jail” is not true. But it’s cyclists that are the problem in this discussion.
Don't you hate it when one side just paints the other as being all of the problem? That's very frustrating.
Yes, drivers who blow through red lights and stop signs like the bad actor cyclists do will find themselves in jail (on reckless driving charges, incidentally) pretty fast. You're trying to compare apples and oranges here: a driver who happened to not see someone while driving (because they were driving more aggressively than you liked) vs. people who regularly flout traffic laws.