[xeonmc]

“For instance, on the planet Earth, man had always assumed that he was more intelligent than dolphins because he had achieved so much—the wheel, New York, wars and so on—whilst all the dolphins had ever done was muck about in the water having a good time. But conversely, the dolphins had always believed that they were far more intelligent than man—for precisely the same reasons.”

― Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

[ChatGTP]

This is what scares me so much about AI researches, many assume that more "human like intelligence" is a good thing, it's been hyper destructive so far, even if unintentional, so I can't see it being much different into the future. Useful yes, not by default always "good".

The hope I have is that we actually do create something that is "actually" really intelligent in the we like to think of ourselves and not the way we actually are.

[DoingIsLearning]

> This is what scares me so much about AI researches, many assume that more "human like intelligence" is a good thing, it's been hyper destructive so far, even if unintentional, so I can't see it being much different into the future. Useful yes, not by default always "good".

It is our imperative for self-preservation that drives destruction. Everything else is just human psychology corollaries of the same thing (aggression, deceit, greed). Human drive for destruction doesn't originate in human intelligence, intelligence just amplifies the ability to destroy.

Arguably this is true for all reproducing mammals (whose intelligence is not comparable to humans). If you trap most mammals in a cage and threaten them, they will destroy whatever comes at them to the best of their ability.

So probably more relevant would be to make AGI without a sense of self or at least without an imperative to self-preserve or reproduce, rather than just fearing the development of something that happens to matches human intelligence.

[bmitc]

Homo sapiens is one of the most violent and power and control seeking species ever. I have little hope that what we create is anything but.

[b112]

Are you mad? I say this to grab your attention more firmly!

Do you think unchecked locusts, would not eat the planet bare? Goats, with no predator, would do the same, destroying all vegetation.

Cats torture their prey for fun. Hippos attack with little provication. Even male beavers, during mating season, are deadly and attack without cause.

Everything on this planet expands endlessly, without predation. Apex predators only die off due to starvarion, see prey/predator population cycles for more info.

Humans are perhaps the most benevolent species, for we actually try to reduce our impact!

Heck, even vegetation cares not for anything but itself. Vegetation changed the entire atmosphere of the planet!

[bmitc]

By violence, I don't just mean physical violence. Humanity's emotional violence is astounding. Also, a lot of those animals you mentioned do those things for survival. Humanity is discontented and will often reach for violence that is otherwise not necessary. Animals in the wild will often avoid conflict at all costs.

[CatWChainsaw]

How do you square "humans try to reduce their impact" with the fact that, exactly like vegetation, we're changing the entire atmosphere of the planet? And getting plastic everywhere from Everest to Mariana Trench, to boot?

[RcouF1uZ4gsC]

Then again, this type of thinking caused dolphins to lose their autonomy to humans.

Humans have the ability to drive dolphins to extinction, while the reverse is not true.

If they were so smart, dolphins should have invested more in defense.