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by opinionsonly01 1193 days ago
Taiwan and Singapore did not do extended lockdowns. They had lockdowns, but we could still order food delivered, still go out to buy food or go to the doctor, and we had constant updates on the number of infections, as the rate went down, restrictions were relaxed.
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onethought 1193 days ago
That is still a lockdown. So the argument isn’t against Chinese doing lockdowns, it’s “how” they did them?
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ospider 1193 days ago
You have no idea of how bad a Chinese lockdown can go. There are literraly two versions of lockdown in the world: the lockdown and the Chinese lockdown.
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onethought 1192 days ago
Does any one person know what multiple lockdowns are like? I think by definition we all only experienced 1... 2 if we were really (un)lucky.

Was India's lack of lockdown, hospitals failing, people dying in the streets on mass "better" than a Chinese lockdown?

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opinionsonly01 1193 days ago
You claimed they had extended lockdowns. That is not true.

I said they had lockdowns, they did not have extended lockdowns.

Please stop spreading misinformation.

Edit: I also reframed for your last comment

> China had the added complication of not having a vaccinated population. Partly due to them having too many people, partly due to their population being skeptical of "Western Medicine".

But since you're defending it. People in China prefer paid western vaccines over free local ones. The CCP refused to allow western vaccines to be used in China for COVID.

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onethought 1193 days ago
You are now entering a pretty minor argument of semantics. Extended lockdowns vs non-extended?

Melbourne did lockdowns for effectively 4 months, longer than any single Chinese lockdown. So even on that point you are incorrect. This isn’t misinformation.

It didn’t refuse vaccines, you can get them in HK, and Chinese are free to travel to HK (for a variety of reasons). There is not enough of them, that’s the problem.

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opinionsonly01 1193 days ago
> Melbourne did lockdowns for effectively 4 months

You claimed Singapore and Taiwan has 'extended' lockdowns. I called you out. Now you're back peddling and trying to justify your statement with "but but but melbourne, you didn't mention melbourne and they had long lockdown!!!"

> It didn’t refuse vaccines, you can get them in HK, and Chinese are free to travel to HK.

It does refuse, and clearly you're not from China or you're just lying because China didn't recognize citizens who returned home with vaccines that were not Chinese.

Not everyone is allowed to travel to HK.

So your statement is completely false.

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onethought 1192 days ago
No, my original point included Melbourne as well. Singapore and Taiwan both did lockdowns as well. Not as long as China true, so your point really is the semantics of length?

No, I'm not from China, but that has little to do with any point I've made. Vaccines were never an option for Chinese, they had a locally made one that didn't work well enough, and they could have never secured the number required of mRNA. If it refused them, then how did HK get them?

Which statement that I've made is false?

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opinionsonly01 1192 days ago
They were an option. China refused to approve Pfizer despite having distribution rights in HK/Macau/China, and manufacturing facilities to produce it in China. Instead opting for local vaccines.

You claim Singapore / Taiwan had extended lockdowns > This is false.

You claim China could never secure mRNA vaccines > This is false.

You claim Chinese are free to travel to HK (to get the vaccine) > This is false.

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