[H4ZB7]

when i was 9 and first used the web i was annoyed by how pages can subvert you and steal focus and show popups (and do audio via flash) etc and even then it was unambiguously obvious that this is a misfeature that should not exist. how do these people have such cognitive dissonance over such simple questions other than being so full of themselves that they think pretending to be open minded by pondering such obvious questions is fooling anyone.

you are designing the fabric of a medium where the main use case is to open 20 pages at once from completely random strangers across the internet. OBVIOUSLY it should not autoplay sound by default.

(also the same reasoning explains why JS should not be a thing, because it slows everything down and causes bugs by letting casuals design the fabric instead of the browser just coming with what's needed (you'd think they can do this with trillions of man hours))

[dylan604]

i was with up until the last paragraph. i like to make fun of javascript as much as the next person (unless you're a dyed in the wool only programs in JS type person, then i make fun of you too ;-) however, the web definitely has benefited from local interactive programming. it just so happens that JS was the language of the web browser. thinking that the internet would be nearly as interesting without some sort of local interactive programming in the browser just screams trolling or someone that really doesn't remember the early days of the web in its full glory.

[Dalewyn]

>thinking that the internet would be nearly as interesting without some sort of local interactive programming in the browser

The internet was more interesting (and usable) before JavaShit became a thing.

Source: Old man shouting at clouds (me) who witnessed and fondly remember the internet of the 90s and early 2000s.