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by JumpCrisscross 1195 days ago
> are all Neopolitan style

They’re more New York than Naples.

> asked about a New York slice, which is a style of pizza that people rave on and on about, and has been cargo-culted across the U.S.

You’re being snotty about people trying to answer your questions.

Coal-fired pizza by the slice is a New York City invention. The crust is firmer than what’s served on the Gulf of Napoli, allowing it to be confidently held with one hand (folded).

> when compared to Chicago tavern style or deep dish

Try a New Jersey tomato pie. (They’re good.)

In my experience, a lot of Chicago pizza is more properly pie. Freshness of ingredients plays second fiddle to texture and presentation. That doesn’t mean it’s bad. But I want a crisp crust, not a bready one, and a slice, not a whole pie, and that’s an innovation of New York City.

(As others have mentioned, there is a definite atmosphere element to the experience. You don’t buy a slice to soberly cut up with a knife and fork for solo Wednesday weeknight dinner.)

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Chicago tavern style (or really any of the tavern style pizzas I’ve had) aren’t bready, they are almost to cracker.
I am ignorant of the tavern (versus not) style. Suggestion?
The place in the article Vito & Nicks has a good example, but frankly you can find it in lots of places.

There is a place near Midway called Palermo’s that I like.

Italian Fiesta is probably my favorite but the service is atrocious.

The other thing to do here is to just get out here and look us up.
I’m putting a no steakhouses (soft) rule on my next Chicago visit. The steaks are great. But I miss so much of the other cuisine.
One problem with tavern style pizza is that you are going to be hard pressed to find someone who really knows the whole city and can really say what the best one to go out of your way to is. Because at the end of the day it’s just what your local pizza spot has. It’s like what you get at a kids birthday party or when you go out after a softball game.

I don’t know even if the spots I picked are standouts. They just are the ones near where I am when it’s appropriate to eat pizza.

Unlike say Chicago bbq a topic on which I have opinions.

I mostly have a no steakhouses rule generally (except when required for business purposes). Sure, there are good ones. But I can get way closer to what a steakhouse can do at home than any number of other recipes.
> You’re being snotty about people trying to answer your questions

One of many bad habits I picked up from the locals in NYC. Working on it.