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by calvinmorrison 1194 days ago
Prisoners are slaves who do not have the same rights as other Americans
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Not all incarcerated people are prisoners though. Plenty of folks in jail are simply too poor to afford bonding out before their trial date.
Are you confusing the term 'prisoner' with 'criminal'? Prisoner is used to refer to people waiting for trial frequently, and dictionaries seem to support this definition.
Well we can mince words, but functionally you are deprived of your freedom while being presumed innocent if the government decides it so.
Perhaps you have a different term besides "prisoner" to describe someone who is imprisoned before their trial rather than after. But the parent comment is correct: whatever you call them, these people are not afforded all of the rights that the rest of us have.
This is the truth. The legal exception is literally carved out in the 13th amendment; the government reserved the right to make slaves of its prisoners.
Lots of people in prison/jail are not convicted though, but merely awaiting trial. The 13th amendment only applies to "duly convicted" people.
yep prison is an abomination. Needs to be defunded and outlawed.
And then we do what to uphold the rule of law?
what do you do now for the vast majority of crimes that go unpunished?

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/03/01/most-violen...

majority of crimes are not even reported to police and of those reported much less than half get solved