[CuriouslyC]

Depopulation? You mean stepping back from overpopulation? Do you want to live in a world where everyone lives in a 200sqft box and eats manufactured sludge because we don't have resources for people to live like actual humans unless they're from an oligarch family?

I can feed my family with a small permaculture farm, some chickens and goats, without relying on anyone else. I can heat my house with wood and solar energy retained in water, again without relying on anyone else. If my farm is surrounded by polluters and thus the ground is so tainted that nothing grows without buying Monsanto's entire catalog, that would be the fault of Republicans who've blocked environmental regulation.

[Georgelemental]

> heat my house with wood

In what world is this remotely good for the environment, in any way?

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Also, if you do really live on a farm off the grid, you might be interested in this NYT profile: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/10/opinion/thomas-massie-rep...

[CuriouslyC]

In a world where there aren't way too many billions of people.

[southernplaces7]

Well since there are many billions of people, solutions should adapt to their presence, not to a sick ideal of eliminating several billion of them. The world is in the first place not even overpopulated, it just manages its resources badly in certain contexts, and secondly, no person alive today has any less right to life than you. Ergo, if you hate several billion extra humans, you should also hate your own presence by this logic.

[Georgelemental]

I like people! I think life is inherently good, and more people alive to enjoy the world is something we should be aiming for.

[CuriouslyC]

I dislike being around people. More people means more competition for the good stuff like space, a nice view, quiet, delicious fish/game, etc.

You might argue that more people produce more other good stuff, but that is a flawed argument for a few reasons. For starters, a lot of scarcity in our economy is fake and introduced to maximize profit. Second, there's only so much valuable work to be done, but everyone has to have a job, so somewhere between 50-80% of people end up doing meaningless work (think of all the people involved in making/marketing a lot of infomercial garbage and lame tchotchkes like dog bowls shaped like toilets that flush when the dog eats). Nobody would miss those things if they'd never existed, and I'm sure none of the people responsible wanted to do that sort of thing growing up. It's basically a big capitalist circle jerk.

[Georgelemental]

I am an introvert, I don't always like being around people. But I am glad that those people got a chance to exist and experience life, and am willing to accept inconvenience for that.

[avgDev]

But if they didn't exist then it would not have mattered? We are just space dust, until we are born we have no conscience, those who not exist cannot miss anything.

[tohnjitor]

Overpopulation is a myth best left behind in the 1970s.

[CuriouslyC]

You should try living in Hong Kong and see how you feel about overpopulation. As climate change makes huge swathes of land unlivable and population continues to grow that will be your future.

[handedness]

'You should try living in the Yukon and see how you feel about overpopulation. As climate change...'

Your experience is valid but the population density of a particular city (or lack thereof in a particular territory) is a poor indicator of whether the earth's population is too high for its carrying capacity.