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by blahblah1234567 1198 days ago
""Brogrammer" or "tech bro" are slang terms often used to label a stereotypically masculine programmer. "

I've only ever known one masculine programmer, out of dozens I've met.

Programming is a sedentary & solitary activity.

It doesn't seem to attract masculine, sex-god type males. If anything, it's the opposite scenario.

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I don't know the current usage, but historically this seems off. When these terms arose, they referred to programmers who relied on cliques, marketing and hype as opposed to great software engineering.

The "move fast and break things" types who shout down opposition because they always outnumber the diligent quiet types. Who have their memes, foosball, beanbags, etc. Who were successful in SV because they didn't give a damn. Who then used DEI as a shield to progress politically.

Who then set up crypto schemes under the "effective altruism" flag.

So no, gender or masculinity is not central to the term. Complete lack of morals and deception is.

why is the term "bro" instead of "hoe"?

Isn't "whore" more demonstrative of lack of morals, compared to "brother"?

It's a silly conversation-- Clearly "tech bro" is misandrist.

It enviously discounts men for success in technology, often while simultaneously expecting something from said men (such as emotional or financial support, again, while simultaneously insulting them... yeah, not productive).

> why is the term "bro" instead of "hoe"?

Because the vast majority of programmers are men, hence we use men related adjectives/words. These things describe stereotypes, there is no "tech hoe" stereotype as far as I can tell

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1126823/worldwide-develo...

Same reason why in France we say "infirmieres" (feminine) to say nurse although the neutral should be "infirmiers" (masculine): because 85%+ nurses are women

> Clearly "tech bro" is misandrist.

Yet no one ever complained about it ever

American reading way to much into these gender stuff should be an Olympic sport

Pretty sure people complain about it in every single HN thread that uses the term
> in every single HN thread

Can we find a smaller and more biased sample ?

It is indeed a silly conversation, because you apply nitpicking and tangents to a term that refers to a culturally comprehensive concept that the reader is supposed to understand in context.

The term "bro" refers to the clique aspect, same as "fraternity" or "sorority". It could have been "tech sis", but the majority of tech bros were male, certainly at the time the term was coined.

Simpler answer that doesn’t require weird psychoanalysis: bro is used because of the perception (possibly reality?) of the ratio of men to women in tech.
I’ve never thought the term had anything to do with masculinity - unless it’s the toxic kind.
I’ve notice an uptick in people getting into programming because it’s “a good job”.

As opposed to a few decades ago when my experience was more “I like computer and want to know how they work. Being payed for it is nice”

Not a judgement values. I just advise people who want a tech job that programming is tedious and frustrating. If you’r ok with that, everything is on the table really. And I don’t mind working with new folks type