[refulgentis]

Correct. And they failed at it. Swap bonds for magic beans and see if it’s defensible. We know the bonds were worth less, but it doesn’t obviate failing to manage the half of the business that isn’t people handing you money

[wolfendin]

Magic beans could be anything. So I’m not sure that works

[refulgentis]

Correct. I think you are being blinded by the word "bonds" when evaluating the proportions you assign to mismanagement vs. being blindsided. I feel inviting swapping in a word that is anything except bonds may be a way to continue this interesting conversation