[nxkwkfhik]

> When a cyclist is doing over 20mph on a pavement coming towards me, it’s terrifying, again.

Maybe a reckless kid but surely someone cycling at 20mph on a pavement is a rare occurrence.

Either way, having someone running at you at 20mph might not be as terrifying, but it poses a similar risk to you life vs a bicycle if they hit you.

A car at 20mph on the other hand…

[PaulRobinson]

Most cyclists in London are doing over 20mph, even on pavements. They're oh so very important and in a hurry, you see.

I once saw a racing bike (rider was in lycra racing gear like he was in the Tour de France, sigh), go through the pedestrian crossings at the junction at Bank at well over 40mph. If people hadn't noticed him and held back he could have hurt dozens of people.

And yes, somebody sprinting at you is scary, but you won't have to deal with wheels, chains and a metal frame - just another skeleton dressed in muscle, fat and skin coverings.

[ljf]

I'm not too sure about your ability to gauge others speeds.

Most cyclists (or at least the average cyclist) is not doing 20mp+.

I cycled daily for nearly 10 years, and while I could sprint fast, 20mph was my standard speed, and I was faster than the majority of the East London to West London cycle traffic (and more traffic tbh) - for a good period had the Strava KoH to prove it. Those that beat me were usually coming out at night to complete set sections of the route so as not to compete with traffic.

I'm not as fit as I was, and on the flat 20mph is now my 'good speed' - I can hit 25 when going for it, and even 30 if I can draft in behind a better cyclist or a van. Was the junction at Bank on a steep downhill section for the person to do 40mph?

How are you so sure people are riding at 20 on the pavement? I would be terrified to do 20 on a London pavement - such a thin area to cycle on, and risk of doors opening, and traffic etc.

[rascul]

> Maybe a reckless kid but surely someone cycling at 20mph on a pavement is a rare occurrence.

A decent rider can do 20mph on pavement if it's not uphill. I regularly did 15-20mph on the flats when I rode often.