[kzrdude]

The reason that people use them is to have good LSP integration and completion you need to manage 2-3 or 4 plugins and how they cooperate

[throwaway290]

It's doable by hand. I wanted to run LSP servers in Docker so I don't need to juggle versions and dependencies and virtual environments on my main machine and nothing out of the box had this. Took a couple of days. It's sad that it's perceived to be so difficult that an extra thing is needed to make it usable. As a result everyone uses those and the actual plugins have poor docs and API, if not that I would've spend less than a day I guess.

[jamal-kumar]

I appreciate the fact that I have time and everything to spend two whole days doing that but some others out there are on a clock

[throwaway290]

if you don't have that time you are already using VS Code ;)

[kzrdude]

LazyVim has the following completion/lsp plugins loaded (and I've added nothing): cmp-nvim-lsp, mason-lspconfig, mason, neodev, null-ls, nvim-lspconfig, luasnip, and there's more that load on demand.