[wokwokwok]

haha... Have you ever worked with a product manager?

(:

Sorry, those turn up as 'must have' features in like, meeting #2 with the product owner, because the UI feels old and rubbish without them.

Technically? You're 100% right.

...but, I guarantee that even a LOB app, this will turn up, again and again and again as a feature request, until it becomes a tier 1 priority.

[saurik]

This clearly seems to read as a problem with the "product manager", not the technology.

[DangitBobby]

Or maybe it's a problem with people railing against the stack pretending it doesn't solve any problems in at least 1 thread per day.

[elygre]

And also the problem was with “the” product manager, not “a” product manager.