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by jbigelow76 1189 days ago
Including the will to take illegal steroids without which he wins nothing and has no fame or career in public life.

Meh, his biggest body-building claims to fame were multiple Mr. Olympia titles. Is there any other Hollywood A-list type (current or former) of which that title has been the make or break factor? Schwarzenegger's peer at the time for the same title(s) was Lou Ferrigno, and he never did better than runner up at a time in which that competition had the most cultural cache within Hollywood; he even he had his own success in Hollywood as The Hulk (and 36 other movie/TV credits per wikipedia.)

Some of Schwarzeneggar's success comes down to "sheer will" as the GP posited. Some of it is also luck (right place/right time, the right "look" for a given role, etc...) And some of it is help from others, which he seems to readily acknowledge and pass on as a message to others[1]

To say Schwarzenegger is who he is only because of steroids is as shallow of an assessment as to say it's all "sheer will".

1. https://www.reddit.com/r/MadeMeSmile/comments/o9infd/not_a_s...

edit: cleaned up a sentence.

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> To say Schwarzenegger is who he is only because of steroids

Who said that? Not me.

To say he could have had all the other necessary parts, will, drive, luck and not made it without them is a different and true proposition. You don't win his body building titles and achieve fame without them, regardless of what else goes into that success and how impressive we find it (or not).