[abeppu]

> Californians: Let's oppose all new housing

This is like snarkily claiming "Senators: let's oppose all new laws", which refuses to acknowledge that gridlock comes from a sufficient minority exists to create hurdles for any new policy.

The problem is that roughly 0% of Californians will say they want no new housing, but a enough of them will oppose the specific projects that are near them, with the effect that all housing construction projects get hindered, even when everyone says in the abstract that more housing is needed and important.

[hifromLA]

This is certainly a more accurate and interesting analysis. I’d also like to point out how anti-gentrification activists and wealthy NIMBYs often work towards the same goal. I believe the anti-gentrification activists have the more noble cause, but the net effect is the same.

What we are seeing is only a product of extremely high demand meeting an unstoppable (ish) force. The results are not great.

[s1artibartfast]

As much as people hate on market solutions, completely ignoring Market forces simply makes them build and compound until they reach a breaking point.

[Bloating]

much like squeezing a balloon

[aidenn0]

I was talking about Newsom being anti-NIMBY and my dad says "Judging from people I talk too, that seems anti-democractic" and my response was "Well actually for any given backyard, 99% of the population wants housing built there" So it is an important, if subtle, distinction.