[nix23]

>I was asking which one, and the only one I know of is SEBSD, which is not at all massive.

SEBSE is a Framework, MAC is an implementation, those are two different things on different levels.

>MAC framework, but I've never heard of it. What is it called?

It's called MAC...you still don't see the difference?

https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/mac/

Look i stop here you have obviously no knowledge of MAC.

>I've been dealing with MAC for 20 years

Yeah no you don't since you don't even know the difference of SELinux and the/a MAC implementation.

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This is frustrating. I don't know why you are trying to explain things when the issue is you simply were not clear with your first comment, and then acted like I misquoted you.

> SEBSE is a Framework, MAC is an implementation, those are two different things on different levels.

This is incredibly wrong unless you are referring to something other than mandatory access controls when you say MAC.

MAC is a concept. SELinux AND SEBSD are implementations. And yes, you can say they are implementations of FLASK, or call them frameworks, but semantics aside none of that changes that SELinux and SEBSD are implementations of a concept.

Saying MAC is an implementation is just flat out wrong.

And for what it's worth, I was correct when I said it was SEBSD, even though it isn't called that anymore. That's what the project started off as before it was merged: http://www.trustedbsd.org/sebsd.html

> Yeah no you don't since you don't even know the difference of SELinux and the/a MAC implementation.

The irony here lol.

[nix23]

>Linux Security Modules (LSM) is a framework allowing the Linux kernel to support without bias a variety of computer security models. LSM is licensed under the terms of the GNU General Public License and is a standard part of the Linux kernel since Linux 2.6. AppArmor, SELinux, Smack, and TOMOYO Linux are the currently approved security modules in the official kernel.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Security_Modules

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I have no idea why you think linking that proves some kind of point, it only proves to me that as I said you are very much out of your depth in joining this conversation.

Please don't reply to me again.