[kube-system]

When it comes to privacy, for the vast majority of users, sane defaults are better than requiring the user to take manual action.

[victor106]

Exactly!!!

This might seem like I am an Apple fanboy but I am not, I have plenty issues with Apple products but when it comes to Privacy Apple is the only company amongst the big tech we can trust.

Microsoft, Google, Facebook are all anti-privacy and just about using dar patterns to steal users info. It’s disgusting.

[fsflover]

> when it comes to Privacy Apple is the only company amongst the big tech we can trust

No, it's not: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34299433, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26639261, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26644216.

[kube-system]

I wouldn't leap that far, I'm just talking about the lid switch on a laptop here.

[raxxorraxor]

It is still the correct solution. A sensible default doesn't conflict here, but hardware switched are the only solution where you can be entirely sure.

[kube-system]

The problem is a separate switch leaves mainstream non-paranoid users unprotected, because it requires conscious activation by the user.

And anyway, a lid switch is a hardware switch. But most importantly, it activates passively during normal usage patterns.