[epolanski]

There's so much to debate in your list, it's just not worth it.

Do you know where Italian fisheries are all of the time? North African and turkish coasts. African debt? We're kings of it as of stealing every african resource and abusing those people. Spying, really? You even barely aware how far we go with that?

The problem with modern geopolitics is that very few lead by the example.

[bmitc]

> The problem with modern geopolitics is that very few lead by the example.

That is effectively the point.

[phist_mcgee]

Whataboutism at its finest always seems to appear in china vs west discussions.