[krisroadruck]

That's a whole other animal. I mean why is California always dealing with water shortages but still growing almonds? My comments here are talking about residential stuff. I think I mentioned above that commercial detergents also still have phosphates. The whole 2 sets of rules thing is pretty common in the US shrug

[bradleyjg]

Well but this is my point. I don’t know the ratios resident/industrial for phosphates, it was an honest question. But for water, I do know the numbers. Indoor residential use isn’t even a rounding error. So why are Californians taking crappy showers with low flow showers when it doesn’t even make any difference?

If we really want to solve these problems and not just feel good about ourselves we should have a different set of policies.

[krisroadruck]

I think we are kind of on the same side of this particular argument :-)